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short1
 Post subject: Body Dropping to the DOORS help.
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I've got my 87 CC all bagged and seems to be running smooth. Lays frame like it should and the cross member. Im wanting to body drop this truck to the doors. I already know that im gonna have to cut and raise my rear fenders for the tire clearence. Im wondering if i can do this drop without a cowl induction hood? Its got the 454 in it so i think im gonna have to. Im gonna stock floor it also. Im not very tall so F*&^ it. Taller people and ride in the bed. LOL.. Just looking for some insight before i start up the sawzall. Thanks guys..


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BUMP.. i know someone has got some insight on this..


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yo man. glad its working out for ya. i bet you will need a cowl . thats my issue. i want to end up bodydropping my square but i refuse to run a cowl. not my style. ands you have it mixed up. a stockfloor bodydrop allows taller/bigger people more room ect.. and a traditinal old skool style body drop you lose alot of room.


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youd have to do some serious front suspension/crossmember mods but it could be done. or buy one of those aftermarket front kits KP i think makes them. stock floored with my frame 2x4 frame i can cut about an inch into my rocker, so going to the door is about another 2 inches, so youd be raising your floor about 2 inches. better yet, id just channel it, leave your floor alone and just remake the trans tunnel. your motor would be super close to hood, id swap a 350 in it.

depending on tire/wheel size, 22 is probably the biggest you could run when its all done


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short1
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traditional i was meaning. Im not tall so i think i should be ok. I think im just gonna run some 16 in wheels so. Im the same way i dont want a cowl hood either. but i think im gonna have to. Do you guys know by any chance if my rear wheels will hit the top of the fiberglass fenders? thanks for the info too.


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what size tire you wanting to run ? and you said you wanna stay 16s? for sure?


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yea i plan on running 16's. ive got the 225/60/16 on it now so i think im sticking to that size.


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What suspension work would i have to do? and crossmember? Im already layin the frame on the ground with bags. Thanks for the info guys


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ok, so does your frame lay flat out on the ground ? front to back ? does your frame, crossmember and arms all sit flush on the ground ? do your arms touch first when layed out ? did you z your frame ? sorry to bomb you with questions. just curious exactly what you have going on before i throw any answers out there.


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sounds to me you are way in over your head.

the size tires you are runnin now are the same size as a low pro 22, there is no reason not to run a at least a 22 inch wheel.

but from what i am reading, i dont think its wise to suggest anything else, lives could be in danger


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i agree in a way with what your saying man as in being over his head and ect. you really gotta do your homework man. . suspension work and wanting to door your truck is a big task. im not knocking you short1 or suggesting you dont do it, but get the facts straight and do research. i understand thats y why your here and asking questions. nothing wrong with that. , but at the same time, not everybody wants to run 22s or 24s on there truck. alot of us may be partial to running semis but by no means does it mean , just because you can fit them , you have to run them.


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I would be the first one to say that im in over my head. And thats why im here. As for being safe, Well thats what its all about. Ive been working on this truck for almost two years knowing that my kids will ride in it too. so u can bet its built the safest way possible. Eventually i will run some 19's but not 22's. Semi's are cool but its not what im wanting. My frame does lay out level with the control arms. I didnt z the frame. Thanks for the insight big bear. Oh and you too bk2life.


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a doored truck is no fun in real life. cool at shows, but keep your rockers. the difference is night and day. the rockers really stiffen up a vehicle.


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no prob man...glad you ask so many questions. its a learning process for us all . i learn new things daily haha i ask lots of questions . so, your one of the lucky ones. your frame and arms touch together when layed out and you avoided the z. that happens sometimes. as for what bk2life says....i do hear that alot from people that have doored trucks. surely badass to say its doored, and looks killer at a show, but when its up in the air it looks goofy as hell and it does lose some durability. but, on the flipside i suppose to that is, you can cap off the bottom and support the crao out of it. so where theres a will theres a way. either way, good luck man. glad you doing it safely. you by chance have any pics of your truck layed out ? id love to see them.


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hypothetically speaking....lol

if your frame already lays flat when its on the ground and you want to stockfloor/door it..go out and measure how many inches it will take to lay the door on the ground..(with the truck layed out) guestimate ?? 5 inches ??? (this is an example, i am not sure how many inches it would take..lol)
cut the rocker off and cap the bottom..

you will have to weld some steel tube inside the bottom rails of the frame.. .
your frame is 8 inches tall.. so you would use some 2x3 .25inch steel tube..
then you will cut the top 5 inches off the frame off.(all the frame that is directly under the cab of the truck)
you will have to move all the body mounts down 5 inches. including the front frame horns
cut the trans tunnel out and raise it up 5 inches...

you will have to body drop the bed. the bed floor will have to be cut loose and moved up 5 inches .

or .....you can keep the stock frame . cut the rockers off to the door . cut the body mounts loose. then cut your slots in the floorboard to do the traditional body drop ..move the body mounts down and weld them back to the frame.. cap the floorboards with metal to cover the frame rails...

either way you do it. the bed will need to be body dropped, and you will have to fab up the steering shaft and shifting linkage again..

its alot easier said than done to do a body drop on these big trucks. and to beat all, some trucks don't need to be z'ed to lay. and then you have trucks that will not lay without a Z...lol (i got the one that didn't lay.. :( )
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